Buying your first kite

March 16, 2003

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Buying your first kite is usually a very confusing process. There are a few confusing issues like what size to buy, 2 line or 4 line, and new or secondhand.

2 or 4 lines

4 line kites gives you the ability to depower your kite instantaneously during a gust, and gives multiple power settings, bigger wind range and faster turning.

2 line kites offers someone who has never flown a kite before a slower turning kite, easier relaunchability and 2 less lines to roll up.

2 line kites are great to learn on for the first hour or so, but you really only need an hour on a 2 line kite to get the feeling of a kite. Once you can keep a kite in the air, you must start learning to fly a 4 line kite. Learning on a 4 line kite is much easier and safer as you are able to depower your kite. The best thing to do is to take a lesson from a kite school as they would normally teach you on a 2 line kite for the first hour, before teaching you to fly a 4 line kite.

4 line kites are definitely a far better choice than 2 line kites. Being able to depower your kite during a gust, and having multiple power settings on your kite not only makes kiteboarding more convenient and safer, but also gives you a bigger range on your kite.

What size kite should I buy?

When looking at kite sizes it is important to know if you are looking at calculated area or surface area. Most companies use the surface area method which is in square meters, while a few uses the calculated area. Calculated area is roughly surface area divided by 1.36

There is a lot of confusion about what size kites to buy for people of different weight. When buying a new kite it is important not to buy a too large kite or a too small kite.

A large kite (14 – 18 square meters) requires more skill to fly as it can fall out of the sky in beginner’s hands and light winds, turns slower and relaunches difficult. The amount of power generated by a large kite might also be too intimidating for a newcomer to the sport.

Too a small kite (6 – 8 square meters) means that you need to go out in stronger winds to be able to get up on your board. Smaller kites relaunch easier, but also fly the fastest. The faster you fly your kite through the window, the more power it generates which means that you will be punished for any mistakes that you make.

The best conditions to learn in are about 15 knots, and the best kite to learn on is a 10 or 12 square meter kite. A 12 square meter kite is a medium size kite that offers the best of both worlds, and is definitely the kite that you should consider to start kiteboarding with. Even if you can only afford one kite and are looking for a kite that will give you the most range, a 12 square meter kite is unbeatable. A typical 12 square meter kite will have a range of 13 – 20 knots in the hands of an experienced kiteboarder.

Should I buy new or secondhand?

Buying new or secondhand is a personal preference, and both options have advantages and disadvantages.

Buying new enables you to own the latest in kite design, and brings with all the usual advantages when you buy a new product.

More experienced riders often buy new kites, as the enhancements in the later model kites offers faster turning, higher jumping, more hang time, more wind range and better stability. One single disadvantage of buying new is the high price tag associated with new kites.

If you are a beginner it is definitely worth your while to invest in a second hand kite. As a beginner you will be crashing your kite a lot, and giving your kite a fair amount of abuse.

A secondhand model that is currently in production should easily be up to a third cheaper than a new kite, whereas a second hand model that is not in production anymore can safe you more than 50% on the price of a new kite.

Before buying a second hand kite it is important to check the kite for any bladder leaks or torn material. Unroll the kite and inflate all the bladders on the kite. Leave the kite inflated for at least half an hour to check for any punctures in the bladders.  

Kites generally last a long time, and the perception that kites only last a year or two is a misguided perception. Buying second hand is a good option if you want to save money, while buying new is a good option if you can afford it and want the latest in kite design.


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1 Russ 9/25/2005 8:32:06 AM

I agree on rider weight comments above. The rider ability is the main factor for kite size. I am still a beginner ( about 200#s) and was out on a 12m Naish med AR and was adequately powered. A pro rider (about 150 #s) was out with a 17m Takoon high AR. Another advanced rider (about 175#s) was out with a 15M Cabrinha CO2 med AR.
After the session we talked over a few beers. We were all comfortable with the kites we were using. During the occasional lull in the wind, I had to work the kite a little more to stay on a plane but the others were fine. Conversely during gusts I was fine but the advanced rider was over-powered. The pro rider never had any problem during the day.

2 haydon 9/25/2005 8:32:06 AM

what are the thoughts regarding ram air vs inflatable?

3 replicant212 9/25/2005 8:32:06 AM

regarding bodyweight... ok, today was my first day and we were in 20mph winds. i am only 130 lbs and was on a 9m kite. i was a little tired from learning with the small kite, but still, even if i was at full power a 9m was literally pulling me out of the water with every figure 8 i made, i was not in one bit of control with that kite. so i think body weight does make a difference, atleast in the beginning.

it would be nice if there was some kind of
weight/wind speed/kite size/skill level matrix.

cause my butt got kicked today and it wasnt too much fun :(

4 Russ 9/25/2005 8:32:06 AM

I agree on rider weight comments above. The rider ability is the main factor for kite size. I am still a beginner ( about 200#s) and was out on a 12m Naish med AR and was adequately powered. A pro rider (about 150 #s) was out with a 17m Takoon high AR. Another advanced rider (about 175#s) was out with a 15M Cabrinha CO2 med AR.
After the session we talked over a few beers. We were all comfortable with the kites we were using. During the occasional lull in the wind, I had to work the kite a little more to stay on a plane but the others were fine. Conversely during gusts I was fine but the advanced rider was over-powered. The pro rider never had any problem during the day.

5 Carlo 9/25/2005 8:32:06 AM

Weight plays a role, but not a significant role in my opinion.

2 riders can be out on the same day with the same kite size. The one rider weighs 70 kg and the other rider weighs 100 kg.

The heavier rider can easily be underpowered in the same wind conditions, while the lighter rider has adequate power.

The situation can be reversed where the lighter rider can be overpowered in the same conditions where the heavier rider has adequate power.

This difference in power for different riders of different weight is marginal - give or take 20%. In my opinion this issue has been overcomplicated by a lot of people. The newer kites have huge range when compared to a few years ago. You can easily compensate for difference in power with existing power settings on your kite, or by changing to one kite size bigger or smaller, but the latter option can normally be avoided by just changing your power settings on the pigtail of your kite.

It is possible to see a different rider with one kite size bigger or smaller than you, but highly unlikely that someone will have 2 or 3 kite sizes bigger than you.

6 Tracey 9/25/2005 8:32:06 AM

What about the HR and LR aspects. I know LR is best for beginners but what models are LR?

7 Athol 9/25/2005 8:32:06 AM

These are some of the things you are looking for. I have listed the medium AR's as some of the manufacturers have more than two kites in their range and most people locally don't bother with the low AR kite. Some manufacturers have 4 levels i.e. Naish have a low, medium, high and very high

Apologies if not all the kites are here, I dont' know all the brands.

Cabrinha Kites

Black Tip - High AR
CO2 - Medium AR

Naish Kites

X10 - Very High AR
X3 - High AR
Aero 2 - Medium AR

Airrush Kites

Lift Pro - Very High AR
Lift - High AR
Flow - Medium AR

Caution Kites

Only High AR

North Kites

Rhino 2 - High AR
Toro 2 - Medium AR

Wipika Kites

Amp - High AR
Hydro - Medium AR

Slingshot Kites

Fuel - High AR
(Not sure what the low AR Slingshot is called)



8 me 4/7/2008 1:48:24 PM

stay out of the water kooks

9 DSB 5/13/2008 12:13:12 AM

If Im a biggner and im 60kg, do you think that kite size 14 would be good?

10 Immanuel 12/2/2008 7:59:59 AM

I'm going to start kitesurfing

11 Bede 12/25/2008 2:00:49 PM

Im looking to get into Kite surfing. I have bought a little training Kite (Slingshot B2). I think I have the kite control covered. Now I am thinking about either buying a bigger kite and getting into the water, or buying a mountain board and getting used to the feel of movment while flying the kite. I was looking at the Slingshot series and was wondering if anyone could give me some advice on what to do next.
Cheers

12 Sam 1/19/2009 3:53:03 PM

Hi, I am about 250 pounds can I take up this sport, If so what kind of equipment should I be going for...

13 Casey 1/23/2009 12:47:09 AM

Sam 1/19/2009 3:53:03 PM

Hi, I am about 250 pounds can I take up this sport, If so what kind of equipment should I be going for...

No sam your too fat!!

14 Mick 1/23/2009 12:48:45 AM

Yeah sorry sam your way over the maximum weight. You'd sink like a rock!!!

15 fullofbeans 1/23/2009 7:40:17 AM

Hi there. I have finished my level 3 IKO training and I am planning to go for 3 weeks in yucatan there and around in April to train in calm&warm water condition . I am am a female 60kg (130pounds), cannot afford new what kite would you recomend? Thank you

16 chris 2/13/2009 10:04:19 PM

what is the max weight then? I'm 225 coming from 250 and want to kite surf badly. Is Sam really too fat or can he just get a bigger kite? Can you recommend a kite that would work for a 200-225 range rider?

17 Steve 2/23/2009 4:13:22 PM

Get a 4x4 4-wheeler you fat ass!!!!!! LOL

18 Mike 2/25/2009 9:46:27 AM

Message to the skinny idiots above - I'm 6'-1" 225lbs - kiteboarding with a BEST Waroo 13m for the past 3yrs.

Now, message to the fat people…: Forget getting the bigger kites, go with bigger boards! Get the boards that the skinny ass uses in light wind conditions. This will get you above water and planing faster! There is no such thing as weight limits…well again, now if all that fat prevents you from running 5 miles then forget kiteboarding…lol

19 Lisa 8/7/2009 12:59:04 PM

Hey dumbasses with your fat commets...at least he's asking and considering options. Its stupid for you to think that just because of his weight that he is fat...he could be highly muscular and tall.

Thanks Mike for the great response and good analogy of having the ability to run 5 miles. That gives people who want to engage in this sport a good goal to set for themselves so they can windsurf!

20 Rick 2/28/2010 11:15:00 PM

Hey Big Men....three things to make your lives easier....1. listen to Mike and lisa....2. Go to www.insul8now.com and see what some of the people there have accomplished...if you are like my Son on the main page and athletes page then you do what Mike said and get a bigger board...problem solved ( He weighs 235# & gets HUGE AIR) ....and 3. Do not let anyone kill your dreams....EVER....this is a sport you can do...Period ! Good luck and if you call the guy on the website he will personally take you under his wing and help you.
Take care.

21 Regina 3/3/2010 11:44:49 AM

beginner w/151 proof board..I weigh about 75kg.
What is best size kite for me to start with and what brand or brands? Do not mind getting second hand older kite for first few times out (will check kite inflation,safety,bar and lines shape etc).
So what do ya,ll recomend? Live in Florida on gulf coast,so our winds average 8-18 mph. Of course we get storming but I,m talking daily average winds here. Thank you for any input.
romosurfer

22 Andre 3/4/2010 4:25:39 PM

Hey i am 80Kg.What size kite must i start with?

23 romosurfer 3/4/2010 9:29:52 PM

It is soo uncool of some peoples coments when they insult beginners..and tell them stay off kites because they ask questions.These questions may sound simple to someone that has been kiting for 8 years,but not to a newcomer.Remember, swelled heads, non of us were born kiters.So have patience for the newcomers and lend a helping hand.Putting someone down is just an insecure need to boost yourselves up in a really negative way.I feel sorry for you negative folks.The same applies to telling someone who is 250lbs to stay out of the water. Maybe they pump iron and thus weigh 250lbs of muscle, or maybe they are a bit overweight but still in good shape or want to get in shape. These nasty comments are pitiful and those making them are pathetic.Boost up and help the beginners, you were there once. And boost up your heavier bros and sis,hey they wanna kite,that will get them in shape if they are out of it.Elevate people don,t stomp on them because it makes yourself feel better...those who do that are probably loosers in other aspects of their lives.

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